1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,260 Your 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,600 And 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,580 Daut 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:23,140 times 5 00:00:23,180 --> 00:00:25,660 0 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,580 32 7 00:00:28,580 --> 00:00:29,780 more than top secret. 8 00:00:29,780 --> 00:00:31,280 Ah! 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,580 Something I never should have had experience with 10 00:00:33,580 --> 00:00:35,180 or exposure to. 11 00:00:35,180 --> 00:00:37,920 What was really going on down there? 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,480 An army recruit comes face to face 13 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:42,520 with an otherworldly presence. 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,020 It was the absolute shock of what was happening. 15 00:00:46,020 --> 00:00:47,520 You're not real. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,060 It was like watching a horror movie. 17 00:00:49,060 --> 00:00:50,560 I was very scared. 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:01:04,040 MUSIC 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,640 MUSIC 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,140 It's almost like that primal feeling of, 21 00:01:11,140 --> 00:01:12,240 I'm in danger. 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,940 I need to be away from this. 23 00:01:13,940 --> 00:01:15,840 We're going to die. 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,460 In 1960, the U.S. military built 25 00:01:18,460 --> 00:01:21,760 Walson Army Hospital at Fort Dix in New Jersey 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,460 to serve the base and surrounding area. 27 00:01:24,460 --> 00:01:26,460 MUSIC 28 00:01:26,460 --> 00:01:29,160 Over the decades, former staff members reported 29 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,040 stories of unexplained events. 30 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,340 From ghost-like figures to carts moving on their own, 31 00:01:35,340 --> 00:01:37,340 to babies crying. 32 00:01:37,340 --> 00:01:40,940 Still, sometimes day-to-day events are more alarming 33 00:01:40,940 --> 00:01:42,540 than any ghost stories. 34 00:01:42,540 --> 00:01:44,180 The security policeman goes, 35 00:01:44,180 --> 00:01:46,820 do not look around. 36 00:01:46,820 --> 00:01:48,220 Don't talk. 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,620 I will shoot you. 38 00:01:50,620 --> 00:01:54,220 MUSIC 39 00:01:54,220 --> 00:01:55,420 My name is Damien Beeman, 40 00:01:55,420 --> 00:01:57,520 and I'm a U.S. Air Force veteran. 41 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,460 I'm originally from Lincoln, Nebraska. 42 00:01:59,460 --> 00:02:00,820 I wanted some adventure. 43 00:02:00,820 --> 00:02:02,960 I wanted to go new places. 44 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,060 My family was not military. 45 00:02:05,060 --> 00:02:07,500 My mom bawled for weeks after I told her 46 00:02:07,500 --> 00:02:09,300 that I was going to join the service. 47 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:13,040 MUSIC 48 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,700 After completing his training, 49 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:18,140 Damien is stationed at Walson Army Hospital. 50 00:02:19,140 --> 00:02:21,060 I was a medic with the 305th Med Group 51 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:25,800 at Fort Dix, McGuire, from 1995 to 1997. 52 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,940 During the early 1990s, the hospital was downsized. 53 00:02:29,940 --> 00:02:33,440 Some inpatient services continued on the lower floors, 54 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,080 but the upper floors were left in disrepair. 55 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,120 Floors five through nine were not used at all. 56 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,720 They were just like someone left one day 57 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,460 and never came back. 58 00:02:43,460 --> 00:02:46,220 It was a little unsettling. 59 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,740 Walson is the 911 center for Fort Dix, McGuire, 60 00:02:51,740 --> 00:02:54,080 and the surrounding areas. 61 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,080 We would run ambulance service out of there. 62 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,780 You're going from one thing to the next very rapidly, 63 00:02:59,780 --> 00:03:01,320 and you kind of have to have nerves of steel. 64 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,520 You have to be prepared for everything. 65 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,720 MUSIC 66 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,260 One night, while on a 12-hour shift, 67 00:03:08,260 --> 00:03:12,120 Damien experiences something out of the ordinary. 68 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,260 It was probably my second or third shift on in a row. 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,600 I was working with Staff Sergeant Clark. 70 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,040 We get a 911 call. 71 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:19,960 We take the ambulance. 72 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,160 We go out. 73 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,360 We're gone a couple hours. 74 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,560 We come back. 75 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,440 It's very dark. 76 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,480 I look up, and I realize that there's a window 77 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,480 open on the ninth floor. 78 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,120 Now, the ninth floor is the old psych ward. 79 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,360 So you will almost never see any windows open. 80 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,760 This one in particular, it had been bolted shut decades 81 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,940 earlier. 82 00:03:46,940 --> 00:03:50,140 If somebody is in that facility that shouldn't be, 83 00:03:50,140 --> 00:03:53,660 and a window is open that wasn't open a few hours prior, 84 00:03:53,660 --> 00:03:55,260 I've got to act on that. 85 00:03:55,260 --> 00:03:57,620 I've got to go check that out. 86 00:03:57,620 --> 00:04:01,100 You needed a very specific key to go up to the ninth floor 87 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:02,620 at Wilson Hospital. 88 00:04:02,620 --> 00:04:07,020 If you didn't have the elevators keyed, it's not going up. 89 00:04:07,020 --> 00:04:10,380 Damien locks the elevator in place on the ninth floor, 90 00:04:10,380 --> 00:04:12,740 while he and Clark take a look around. 91 00:04:12,740 --> 00:04:14,340 So we get off the elevator. 92 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,240 There's no lights on. 93 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,280 We're trying to find the light switch. 94 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:19,200 In the room, lights come on. 95 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,600 They're flickering. 96 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,440 Half the lights don't work. 97 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,880 These floors were dusty. 98 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,480 No fresh footprints. 99 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,840 There was nothing up there indicating 100 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:31,240 that there was a person that had been up there. 101 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,720 We make our way over to where this window has been opened. 102 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,320 The screws to lock this window shut when it was a mental ward 103 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,080 were stripped. 104 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,160 They were broken. 105 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,560 There was no tool marks. 106 00:04:42,580 --> 00:04:44,780 There was nothing like a pry bar. 107 00:04:44,780 --> 00:04:47,900 Something had to put enough pressure on that window 108 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:51,060 to break those screws. 109 00:04:51,060 --> 00:04:53,740 We close the window. 110 00:04:53,740 --> 00:04:57,980 At that precise moment, the light doesn't just flicker. 111 00:04:57,980 --> 00:04:58,620 It goes out. 112 00:05:03,620 --> 00:05:07,580 It is dark on an old mental ward. 113 00:05:07,580 --> 00:05:10,020 And we are trying to make our way as fast as we can 114 00:05:10,020 --> 00:05:10,980 back to the elevator. 115 00:05:12,740 --> 00:05:15,460 There was always these ghost stories 116 00:05:15,460 --> 00:05:18,940 about the veteran who died and killed a nurse when he threw 117 00:05:18,940 --> 00:05:20,180 it out of a window. 118 00:05:20,180 --> 00:05:23,780 People would often talk about weird things that happened. 119 00:05:23,780 --> 00:05:27,140 Now, I'm trained to be in stressful situations. 120 00:05:27,140 --> 00:05:30,140 I'd seen some crazy stuff as a medic. 121 00:05:30,140 --> 00:05:35,140 Going into a burning car to pull someone out, not a problem. 122 00:05:35,140 --> 00:05:38,340 Trying to get off that floor when those lights go out. 123 00:05:38,340 --> 00:05:39,780 I was sweating. 124 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:41,940 Heart was pounding. 125 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,600 I was scared. 126 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,680 Damien and Clark make their way back to the elevator. 127 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,520 The key that should have kept the elevator opened and in place 128 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,680 is still there. 129 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,080 But the elevator car is gone. 130 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,080 The elevator wasn't where it's supposed to be. 131 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,840 It should have stayed. 132 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:01,120 Just didn't make sense. 133 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,720 Whoever or whatever turned to that key 134 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,120 or hit the mechanism inside or whatever 135 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,640 made it so that that elevator would go down to the first floor. 136 00:06:10,660 --> 00:06:13,340 In an old building like Walsson Hospital, 137 00:06:13,340 --> 00:06:15,780 you could have some sort of faulty electric. 138 00:06:15,780 --> 00:06:19,740 So when the window closes, you have electrical wires 139 00:06:19,740 --> 00:06:21,980 that somehow make a connection that 140 00:06:21,980 --> 00:06:23,500 causes the lights to flicker. 141 00:06:23,500 --> 00:06:26,260 Or for the elevator, it could have been a malfunctioning chip 142 00:06:26,260 --> 00:06:28,940 that could have caused the elevator doors to close. 143 00:06:28,940 --> 00:06:31,540 But it doesn't explain why that window 144 00:06:31,540 --> 00:06:34,380 was open in the first place. 145 00:06:34,380 --> 00:06:35,420 We're breathing hard. 146 00:06:35,420 --> 00:06:37,940 Our hearts are thumping out of our chest. 147 00:06:37,940 --> 00:06:41,040 We're both legitimately afraid. 148 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,640 We're trying to make sense of what just happened. 149 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,640 To this day, I don't know why that window was open. 150 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,640 It doesn't seem logical. 151 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,680 A few hours later, Damien and Clark 152 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,160 noticed something alarming in the pharmacy. 153 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,320 It's 4 o'clock in the morning. 154 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,560 We are going to go do a set of rounds 155 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,760 to make sure everything is secure. 156 00:07:05,780 --> 00:07:08,340 We go to the pharmacy area, and we 157 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:10,620 notice that this door is open. 158 00:07:10,620 --> 00:07:14,780 It's a door that is locked in place with a special key. 159 00:07:14,780 --> 00:07:15,460 Shut it. 160 00:07:15,460 --> 00:07:16,180 We lock it. 161 00:07:16,180 --> 00:07:17,460 We go do our set of rounds. 162 00:07:24,140 --> 00:07:25,060 We come back. 163 00:07:25,060 --> 00:07:28,580 The door is open again. 164 00:07:28,580 --> 00:07:33,460 Everybody on that shift has been accounted for all night long. 165 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,080 There's nobody that has a key to open that door. 166 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,800 There is no explanation for this door 167 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,920 being opened on the same shift, witnessed by two people. 168 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,880 That's crazy. 169 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,120 That shouldn't happen. 170 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,600 We've had the window. 171 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,400 We've had the light. 172 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,120 We've had the elevator. 173 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,480 Now we've got a door that's opening 174 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,160 when it should be locked in the middle of the night. 175 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,920 This has now just gotten weird. 176 00:08:02,940 --> 00:08:05,500 As a medic, you're trained in science. 177 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:07,420 You're trained in real things. 178 00:08:07,420 --> 00:08:09,380 So when you run up against something 179 00:08:09,380 --> 00:08:18,620 that is unexplainable, counterintuitive, scary, 180 00:08:18,620 --> 00:08:21,380 I'm starting to wonder about the stories I've heard about 181 00:08:21,380 --> 00:08:25,340 Walson and the things that I'm witnessing 182 00:08:25,340 --> 00:08:28,460 makes me question what I believe to be true. 183 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,080 Two nights later, Clark and I are back on shift together. 184 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,400 We are doing a set of rounds, and we 185 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,240 decided we're going to start in the basement. 186 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,640 A very routine thing. 187 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,640 We've done it many, many times. 188 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,400 It's midnight, nothing going on. 189 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,560 Everything's secure. 190 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:47,840 Because the incidents of the previous couple days, 191 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,040 we're just a little on edge. 192 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,040 And then I hear a scream. 193 00:08:55,060 --> 00:08:56,660 It's guttural. 194 00:08:56,660 --> 00:08:59,540 It is the kind of scream that curdles your blood. 195 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:00,540 Ah! 196 00:09:08,540 --> 00:09:11,180 At my time as a medic, I'd only heard screams like that 197 00:09:11,180 --> 00:09:17,540 once or twice from someone who was dying. 198 00:09:17,540 --> 00:09:21,820 At Walson Army Hospital, medic Damien and his partner Clark 199 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,080 hear a gutt wrenching scream while on a routine security 200 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,480 check in the former morgue. 201 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,680 We were out of there so fast. 202 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:34,080 It was close enough and loud enough 203 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,280 that as soon as we left there, if anybody 204 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:41,080 had been in this hallway, we would have noticed them. 205 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,480 This was a standalone noise that just didn't make sense. 206 00:09:46,340 --> 00:09:47,940 We get back up to the main floor, 207 00:09:47,940 --> 00:09:50,340 and I'm trying to kind of gather myself. 208 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:54,580 On the night shift, it's unusual for Damien and his partner 209 00:09:54,580 --> 00:09:57,380 to come across other military personnel. 210 00:09:57,380 --> 00:10:00,580 But tonight, someone is waiting for them. 211 00:10:00,580 --> 00:10:02,980 And then one of the security policemen, or SP, 212 00:10:02,980 --> 00:10:04,580 comes up to Clark and I. 213 00:10:04,580 --> 00:10:09,380 He's like, get a backboard, get your medic bag, come with me. 214 00:10:09,380 --> 00:10:10,780 That's not a requirement. 215 00:10:10,780 --> 00:10:11,780 I'm not going to be a cop. 216 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:12,780 I'm not going to be a cop. 217 00:10:12,780 --> 00:10:13,780 I'm not going to be a cop. 218 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:16,080 That's not a request. 219 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,480 That's an order. 220 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,280 OK? 221 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:19,880 This guy is very serious. 222 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,520 This particular security policeman 223 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,640 was not one that I had ever met before. 224 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,440 And then we're going back down these steps to the morgue. 225 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,640 The nerves kind of set in where normally they wouldn't, 226 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,720 because now these things feel there's 227 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,640 something connecting them. 228 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,040 We get down there, and there's like a hatch, 229 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,120 said fallout shelter. 230 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,480 It normally is bolted shut. 231 00:10:42,540 --> 00:10:46,740 The security policeman, he looks at me, and he goes, 232 00:10:46,740 --> 00:10:48,140 we're going to go down there. 233 00:10:48,140 --> 00:10:49,980 There's someone hurt. 234 00:10:49,980 --> 00:10:52,620 Do not look around. 235 00:10:52,620 --> 00:10:55,020 Do not take any notes. 236 00:10:55,020 --> 00:10:56,420 Don't talk. 237 00:10:56,420 --> 00:10:59,740 I will shoot you. 238 00:10:59,740 --> 00:11:02,940 I'm thinking to myself, like, if I screw up here, 239 00:11:02,940 --> 00:11:05,820 this guy could kill me. 240 00:11:05,820 --> 00:11:08,940 If he has the authority to do so, 241 00:11:08,940 --> 00:11:12,020 what am I going to do about it? 242 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,880 This is not a fallout shelter. 243 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,080 There is something going on down there. 244 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:25,160 There was blackboard that had equations, maybe, 245 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,240 writing of some sort. 246 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,360 There was chemicals. 247 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,360 There was beakers. 248 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,680 There was specimen jars. 249 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:39,680 All the things that you would think 250 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:44,260 would be in some kind of mad scientist laboratory. 251 00:11:44,260 --> 00:11:47,540 As Damien and Clark come to grips with what they're seeing, 252 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:50,940 the security officer orders them to provide medical assistance 253 00:11:50,940 --> 00:11:53,420 to a man lying on the floor. 254 00:11:53,420 --> 00:11:56,780 When we get to the worker, I'm trying to assess this person. 255 00:11:56,780 --> 00:11:58,540 He is kind of out of it. 256 00:11:58,540 --> 00:12:00,980 He had a head injury. 257 00:12:00,980 --> 00:12:03,300 And as I'm trying to talk to him, 258 00:12:03,300 --> 00:12:07,060 the security policeman looks at me and says, no talking. 259 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:07,980 Stop talking to him. 260 00:12:07,980 --> 00:12:08,940 There was no talking. 261 00:12:08,940 --> 00:12:10,680 In the service, we're big on name tags. 262 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:13,360 Some kind of badge that says who they are, who they work for, 263 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,440 certainly their name. 264 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,280 This guy did not have any formal kind of identification 265 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,360 that I found. 266 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,600 This just didn't make sense. 267 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,600 As soon as the security policeman thinks I have got 268 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,600 the patient where I need the patient to be, 269 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,640 it is let's go, let's go, let's go. 270 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Get him up. 271 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,240 We're going. 272 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,960 What have I just witnessed? 273 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,120 What are they hiding? 274 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,680 Because why would you bolt that behind the door 275 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:50,320 with the false pretenses that it used to be a fallout shelter? 276 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,040 Move. 277 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,480 One theory Damien never considered 278 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,280 was that the incident was not connected 279 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,520 to the military at all, but rather organized crime. 280 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,240 I think the location of Walson Army Hospital is important. 281 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,560 It's very close to New York City. 282 00:13:05,620 --> 00:13:09,100 And it's also sort of right in the middle of a part 283 00:13:09,100 --> 00:13:12,100 of New Jersey, which is notorious for its crime families. 284 00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:14,340 And there is, of course, Pine Barrens, 285 00:13:14,340 --> 00:13:16,140 which is pretty close, which is known 286 00:13:16,140 --> 00:13:19,820 to be a dumping ground for a lot of the victims of mafia. 287 00:13:19,820 --> 00:13:21,940 Is it possible the injured workman was somehow 288 00:13:21,940 --> 00:13:23,620 connected to the mob? 289 00:13:23,620 --> 00:13:25,860 Is it possible that the security policeman was somehow 290 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:27,340 connected to the mob? 291 00:13:27,340 --> 00:13:28,700 Maybe. 292 00:13:28,700 --> 00:13:30,540 There are rumored to have been people that 293 00:13:30,540 --> 00:13:33,420 worked at Walson Army Hospital doctors who were on the payroll 294 00:13:33,420 --> 00:13:34,020 of mafia. 295 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,520 So there's a lot of things that may 296 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,640 be brought into it between organized crime 297 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,000 and the hospital itself. 298 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Fearing for his own life and his patients, 299 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,120 Damien drives the unidentified man 300 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,880 to the nearest civilian ER. 301 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,960 The security policeman takes the worker off of the backboard. 302 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,160 He's like, you're done. 303 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,520 Don't talk about this. 304 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:04,860 He has his gun at the low ready, and we go back. 305 00:14:04,860 --> 00:14:08,420 Clark and I are just dumbfounded. 306 00:14:08,420 --> 00:14:11,220 This was the breaking point. 307 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:14,700 This is the first time he and I are talking about these things 308 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:17,140 that are happening. 309 00:14:17,140 --> 00:14:20,100 Once back at Walson Hospital, their supervisor 310 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:23,180 confronts them on their whereabouts. 311 00:14:23,180 --> 00:14:25,220 Our supervisor, he's hoppin' mad. 312 00:14:25,220 --> 00:14:27,780 Because normally our protocol is to say, 313 00:14:27,780 --> 00:14:28,700 we've got this patient. 314 00:14:28,700 --> 00:14:30,180 This is what's going on. 315 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,840 We just gave him the simplest rundown 316 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,280 of what just happened without saying anything. 317 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,920 That there was a worker hurt down there. 318 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,040 The SP was very militant about how he wanted us to deal with it. 319 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,160 That's it. 320 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,040 Our supervisor kind of leans in, and he 321 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,240 says they used to have a rumor that they would do 322 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,760 super soldier experiments down here at Walson. 323 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,560 I bet that's where they did it. 324 00:14:56,580 --> 00:15:00,420 I would define a super soldier as any augmented human. 325 00:15:00,420 --> 00:15:03,060 So we have augmentations to humans. 326 00:15:03,060 --> 00:15:06,380 We have drugs that make people better, make you stay awake, 327 00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:07,700 make you go to sleep. 328 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:09,860 Why wouldn't we have drugs that make you stronger, 329 00:15:09,860 --> 00:15:11,340 or a better shot? 330 00:15:11,340 --> 00:15:14,620 I would be very surprised if there weren't some type of super 331 00:15:14,620 --> 00:15:15,740 soldier experiment. 332 00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:18,380 What that means exactly, I don't know, 333 00:15:18,380 --> 00:15:20,940 but I'm sure there's something going on. 334 00:15:20,940 --> 00:15:23,500 Seemed like time slowed down. 335 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,120 Your brain's trying to take in all these things. 336 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,960 It was scary. 337 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,200 Anxiety level to 10. 338 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:30,700 Ah! 339 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,280 The question of what a super soldier is, 340 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:41,280 I think, is muddled by comic books, movies. 341 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,600 They can do more work in less time. 342 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,080 They don't require as much food. 343 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,800 They can work for days at a time. 344 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,840 That wins wars. 345 00:15:50,860 --> 00:15:56,060 I find it interesting that we experienced this guttural blood 346 00:15:56,060 --> 00:16:00,540 curdle and scream on the same early morning of when 347 00:16:00,540 --> 00:16:03,540 they decided to open this hatch that obviously hadn't been 348 00:16:03,540 --> 00:16:05,460 opened in a long, long time. 349 00:16:05,460 --> 00:16:09,220 I believe that there's a connection there. 350 00:16:09,220 --> 00:16:11,820 I've been keeping the story for about 25 years. 351 00:16:11,820 --> 00:16:15,540 And honestly, it wasn't until they demolished the hospital 352 00:16:15,540 --> 00:16:17,980 that I've ever felt safe even kind of talking about it. 353 00:16:21,340 --> 00:16:24,580 Whatever was there no longer exists. 354 00:16:24,580 --> 00:16:27,860 But it made me wonder what was really going on down there. 355 00:16:32,940 --> 00:16:34,060 I was in danger. 356 00:16:34,060 --> 00:16:35,980 I had been dead if it would have hit me in the head. 357 00:16:40,340 --> 00:16:44,740 For 40 years, the USS LaSalle, a massive transport 358 00:16:44,740 --> 00:16:49,220 warship, defended American interests all over the world. 359 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,960 It took hundreds of highly trained sailors to operate. 360 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,040 Although the ship was famous for providing 361 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,720 critical tactical support, it was also 362 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:04,280 a vessel where sailors mysteriously met their demise. 363 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,960 Whether they believe it or not really doesn't matter to me. 364 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:07,760 It happened. 365 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,360 I was there. 366 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,040 My name is Jason Carey. 367 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,920 I was a mischievous mate, third class in the US Navy, 368 00:17:17,940 --> 00:17:20,340 for three years. 369 00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:23,700 And the Navy teamwork was one of the most important attributes 370 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:24,580 you could learn. 371 00:17:24,580 --> 00:17:26,740 It really means a difference between life and death. 372 00:17:26,740 --> 00:17:30,860 It really helps you as a person grow. 373 00:17:30,860 --> 00:17:35,780 It's about sacrificing your everything for the military, 374 00:17:35,780 --> 00:17:37,420 showing people what America is all about. 375 00:17:40,340 --> 00:17:43,500 My job meant I'm going to be in the engine space, 376 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:46,340 doing maintenance work, standing watch. 377 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:50,880 In 2002, Jason is deployed to Guyeta, Italy, stationed 378 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,440 aboard the USS LaSalle. 379 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,480 The USS LaSalle was a ship built in 1964. 380 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,080 It's a massive amphibious transport ship. 381 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,200 Carried a crew of approximately 800. 382 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,240 It had six large troop helicopters on board. 383 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,480 And it's had really a storied history. 384 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,320 It's seen a lot of action over a long period of time. 385 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,120 It's served in Vietnam. 386 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:17,980 It was in the Middle East during the Gulf War, 387 00:18:17,980 --> 00:18:20,860 and ended up as the flagship of the US 388 00:18:20,860 --> 00:18:23,380 Sixth Fleet in the Mediterranean. 389 00:18:23,380 --> 00:18:27,300 My mission at the USS LaSalle was to be an engineer. 390 00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:28,900 So the only thing that I worried about 391 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:32,740 was my engine room and my shipmates. 392 00:18:32,740 --> 00:18:35,140 The engine room is the heart of the ship. 393 00:18:35,140 --> 00:18:37,420 So as a mischievous mate, our responsibilities 394 00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:42,740 would be to watch for fires, flooding, fuel, oil leaks, 395 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,440 or anything else that could potentially cause anybody harm. 396 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,400 Jason is assigned to work on the cold iron watch, 397 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,800 the shift from midnight to 6 AM, requiring him 398 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,480 to work alone in the engine room. 399 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,120 They call it cold iron watch because there's no equipment 400 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:03,400 actively running. 401 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,960 So nothing's operating at that time, nothing major. 402 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,640 Every 15 to 30 minutes, you're going 403 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,360 to be moving around to check gauge, 404 00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:14,540 maybe opening a valve. 405 00:19:14,540 --> 00:19:16,620 While on duty, you're continuously 406 00:19:16,620 --> 00:19:19,980 on guard in case something happens. 407 00:19:19,980 --> 00:19:22,180 It's about 1 AM, just an hour into my watch. 408 00:19:22,180 --> 00:19:24,980 I'm taking my first set of readings, and it's very quiet. 409 00:19:28,820 --> 00:19:31,220 All of a sudden, out of nowhere, 410 00:19:31,220 --> 00:19:36,580 I start to hear what sounds like boots moving across the deck 411 00:19:36,580 --> 00:19:41,580 plates on the upper level, which 412 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,840 are these big, thick metal plates. 413 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,360 You can hear it from everywhere. 414 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:48,640 The sound starts off as faint, but then it gets louder 415 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,840 as if somebody was approaching the area I was in, 416 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,440 but right directly above me. 417 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,960 No one came in. 418 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,240 I didn't hear the door slam, so I know that I'm alone. 419 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,800 And I'm hearing these boots boom, boom, boom on the deck. 420 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,360 And I try to say to myself, OK, there 421 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:06,960 has to be somebody that knows I'm down here. 422 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:07,840 They want to mess with me. 423 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:14,680 I explore every option to make sure 424 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,400 that there's nowhere they could have hit. 425 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,400 And when I looked around, there was nothing. 426 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,800 It was silent. 427 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,840 I'm thinking, did I actually hear that, 428 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,640 or is my mind playing tricks on me? 429 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,640 One of the conclusions that I came up with 430 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,920 was maybe it was just the deck plate settling, 431 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,960 and it just happened to sound like a pattern. 432 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,640 A few nights later, Jason is alone again 433 00:20:40,660 --> 00:20:42,660 on the Cold Iron Watch. 434 00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:45,140 For the first little bit, I was a little unsettled. 435 00:20:45,140 --> 00:20:48,660 I've just got done with my first set of readings, 436 00:20:48,660 --> 00:20:52,740 and something just felt as if somebody was there with me, 437 00:20:52,740 --> 00:20:55,100 but I couldn't see them. 438 00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:58,380 The hairs in the back of your neck are standing up, 439 00:20:58,380 --> 00:21:01,140 but there's nobody there. 440 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:03,500 What is really going on here? 441 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:08,580 So I go up to look, and as I go up the ladder, 442 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,480 I saw a very quick darting black shadow figure 443 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,480 that was in the shape of a person. 444 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,480 Just really quickly go, boom, and it was gone. 445 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,480 I was freaking out a little, because I'm alone, 446 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,480 and there's things going on that are beyond my understanding. 447 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,480 I'm thinking to myself, what could this be? 448 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,480 I came to the conclusion that I'm tired, 449 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,480 and my eyes are playing tricks on me. 450 00:21:36,380 --> 00:21:38,380 I still have my duty to do. 451 00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:40,380 I just can't leave, even if I was scared. 452 00:21:40,380 --> 00:21:43,380 I'm not going to tell anybody. I don't want to sound crazy. 453 00:21:43,380 --> 00:21:45,380 So part of the duties that night 454 00:21:45,380 --> 00:21:48,380 were to check all of the engineering spaces. 455 00:21:48,380 --> 00:21:52,380 So I had to go and check a doorway, 456 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:56,380 and the doorway was locked with a chain and a lock, 457 00:21:56,380 --> 00:21:59,380 because that's where we kept the JP-5. 458 00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:04,380 JP-5 fuel is the principal fuel of Navy aircraft. 459 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,280 It's extremely flammable and also really toxic to human beings. 460 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,280 For a ship like the LaSalle, 461 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,280 the amount of JP-5 fuel on board would have had to sustain 462 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,280 six very large helicopters in a repeated tour of duty. 463 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,280 That's a lot of fuel. 464 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,280 So I was approaching the door, 465 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,280 and that's when I noticed the chain, the door, 466 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,280 everything was moving, shaking violently. 467 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,280 As if somebody was in there, and no one's supposed to be in there. 468 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,280 The door's going do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. 469 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,280 In the back part of the ship where no one goes, 470 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,280 I went through my checklist to rationalize everything. 471 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,280 What could have caused that to happen? 472 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,280 Could this ship have maybe moved? 473 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,280 Could there have been a wave? 474 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,280 One explanation for the shaking door could be 475 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,280 contact with an underwater mine. 476 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,280 This could have been triggered by the magnetic interaction 477 00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:04,180 between the LaSalle still hull and the mine. 478 00:23:04,180 --> 00:23:06,180 But if there was unexploded ordinance, 479 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:08,180 and the ship hit it, 480 00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:10,180 then you would expect the entire ship to shake, 481 00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:12,180 not just the door. 482 00:23:12,180 --> 00:23:14,180 There is something on the ship that's not normal. 483 00:23:14,180 --> 00:23:16,180 This is more of a unnatural shaking. 484 00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:19,180 Like, somebody had to have been behind that door 485 00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:21,180 to cause it to shake the way it did. 486 00:23:21,180 --> 00:23:24,180 So I'm thinking, oh my God, somebody's locked in there. 487 00:23:24,180 --> 00:23:26,180 Well, I'm not sure what it is. 488 00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:28,180 I don't know what it is. 489 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,080 While working on the night shift, 490 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,080 machinist mate Jason Carey 491 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,080 discovers an unnatural presence 492 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,080 has infiltrated the ship. 493 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,080 I don't hear anybody screaming for help, 494 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,080 but the door, it's... 495 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,080 and it's moving the lock, it's moving the chain. 496 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,080 There's no way it could have been anything else. 497 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,080 Somebody's in there. 498 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,080 So I have to go open the door 499 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,080 to make sure that somebody didn't lock in there. 500 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,080 So I grab the keys, 501 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,080 I get the lock open, 502 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,080 and I get the lock opened. 503 00:23:57,980 --> 00:23:59,980 I get the lock open, and I open the door, 504 00:23:59,980 --> 00:24:01,980 and nobody's there. 505 00:24:03,980 --> 00:24:05,980 I'm thinking, how in the hell 506 00:24:05,980 --> 00:24:07,980 can that door shake like that? 507 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:09,980 And there's nobody there. 508 00:24:09,980 --> 00:24:11,980 There's something going on. 509 00:24:11,980 --> 00:24:13,980 That's when I decided it was time 510 00:24:13,980 --> 00:24:15,980 to start asking my shipmate's questions. 511 00:24:15,980 --> 00:24:17,980 So you kind of approach it, 512 00:24:17,980 --> 00:24:19,980 you know, with kid gloves. 513 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:21,980 Hey, have you ever had anything 514 00:24:21,980 --> 00:24:23,980 weird happen to you 515 00:24:23,980 --> 00:24:25,980 while you're standing in a coal iron watch? 516 00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:29,980 So I'm talking to one of my shipmates, 517 00:24:29,980 --> 00:24:31,980 and he's describing something that happened 518 00:24:31,980 --> 00:24:33,980 while he was on coal watch. 519 00:24:33,980 --> 00:24:35,980 And he saw a black shadow man 520 00:24:35,980 --> 00:24:37,980 standing there. 521 00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:42,980 The fear in his eyes 522 00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:44,980 told me that he was not telling a story, 523 00:24:44,980 --> 00:24:46,980 he was telling an actual incident 524 00:24:46,980 --> 00:24:48,980 he went through. 525 00:24:48,980 --> 00:24:50,980 And that's when I started to connect the doubts. 526 00:24:50,980 --> 00:24:52,980 There has to be something haunted here. 527 00:24:54,980 --> 00:24:56,980 There's somebody still here. 528 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,880 But who do you tell? 529 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,880 You could be marked as a crazy person 530 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,880 and your whole life has changed. 531 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,880 Jason decides to keep what he learned 532 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,880 to himself. 533 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,880 Two weeks later, he has once again 534 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,880 assigned the coal iron watch 535 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,880 in the engine room. 536 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,880 Like any normal night, I take my readings 537 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,880 and then I get an order 538 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,880 that it's time to check the water. 539 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,880 And there's a little box 540 00:25:26,780 --> 00:25:28,780 with a valve where the water comes out 541 00:25:28,780 --> 00:25:30,780 and I want to go turn the valve 542 00:25:30,780 --> 00:25:32,780 and the valve, it wouldn't turn, it was stuck. 543 00:25:32,780 --> 00:25:34,780 No big deal. 544 00:25:34,780 --> 00:25:36,780 Now I've got to go find a tool. 545 00:25:41,780 --> 00:25:43,780 I got the feeling again 546 00:25:43,780 --> 00:25:45,780 as if I was being watched 547 00:25:45,780 --> 00:25:47,780 as if somebody was there with me. 548 00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:49,780 And as I approach 549 00:25:49,780 --> 00:25:51,780 the water valve 550 00:25:51,780 --> 00:25:53,780 I hear the same footsteps 551 00:25:53,780 --> 00:25:55,780 that I've heard before. 552 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,680 I'm not on the upper level, 553 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,680 but I have a duty to do, so I ignore it. 554 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,680 And as I put the wrench 555 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,680 onto the valve 556 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,680 I feel just out of nowhere 557 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,680 a cold, ice cold breeze 558 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,680 almost as if somebody with ice cold breath 559 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,680 blew on the back of your neck. 560 00:26:16,580 --> 00:26:18,580 I 561 00:26:24,580 --> 00:26:26,580 go to turn it 562 00:26:26,580 --> 00:26:28,580 and a chunk of the valve broke off. 563 00:26:28,580 --> 00:26:30,580 At this point I freaked out. 564 00:26:30,580 --> 00:26:32,580 I just broke this valve 565 00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:34,580 and all of a sudden behind me 566 00:26:34,580 --> 00:26:36,580 I hear a boom 567 00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:38,580 out of nowhere. 568 00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:40,580 And I turned around and looked 569 00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:42,580 and there was a giant 570 00:26:42,580 --> 00:26:44,580 pipe wrench just get launched somehow. 571 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,480 Right behind me. 572 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,480 Probably weighed approximately 573 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,480 50 pounds by panic. 574 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,480 I was definitely afraid 575 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,480 the wrench flew 576 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,480 by itself 577 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,480 across the room. 578 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,480 Now I know there is nobody there. 579 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,480 I know 580 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,480 I'm alone 581 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,480 and that pipe wrench 582 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,480 could have killed me. 583 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,480 A 50 pound wrench 584 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,480 flying across the room 585 00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:16,380 I had to get some sort of like 586 00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:18,380 massive energy injection somehow. 587 00:27:18,380 --> 00:27:20,380 So just like you try to put 588 00:27:20,380 --> 00:27:22,380 two poles together a magnet 589 00:27:22,380 --> 00:27:24,380 it pushes apart. 590 00:27:24,380 --> 00:27:26,380 So could there have been 591 00:27:26,380 --> 00:27:28,380 an induction type act 592 00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:30,380 and magnetic fields and currents 593 00:27:30,380 --> 00:27:32,380 in the ship? 594 00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:34,380 That seems unlikely 595 00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:36,380 because that same power 596 00:27:36,380 --> 00:27:38,380 could go into people 597 00:27:38,380 --> 00:27:40,380 and kill them. 598 00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:42,380 So I have no idea what would have caused that. 599 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,280 I was flying across the room 600 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,280 by itself. 601 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,280 There was no brushing this off. 602 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,280 It shook me to my core 603 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,280 it scared the hell out of me. 604 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,280 What else could happen? 605 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,280 At this point I felt as if there was 606 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,280 somebody was there. 607 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,280 My heart was racing 608 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,280 my anxiety level was high 609 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,280 and I was afraid. 610 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,280 Aboard the USS LaSalle 611 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,280 machinist mate Jason Kerry 612 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,280 witnesses something unimaginable 613 00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:14,180 in the engine room. 614 00:28:14,180 --> 00:28:16,180 I don't think there's a way to rationalize 615 00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:18,180 a 50 pound wrench flying across the room 616 00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:20,180 by itself. 617 00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:25,180 Then a figure appeared 618 00:28:25,180 --> 00:28:27,180 in khakis which in the military 619 00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:29,180 that's a chief. 620 00:28:29,180 --> 00:28:31,180 He would probably be from 621 00:28:31,180 --> 00:28:33,180 the era of like 60s, 70s. 622 00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:35,180 That was when the moment 623 00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:37,180 I realized who was in the space with me. 624 00:28:37,180 --> 00:28:39,180 It was a leader. 625 00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:41,180 It was somebody that was looking out 626 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,080 and I had maybe made them mad. 627 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,080 That was his home 628 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,080 and I was the visitor 629 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,080 and the only way he 630 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,080 could communicate that was 631 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,080 to throw the wrench to get my attention 632 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,080 to let me know, hey I'm here 633 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,080 and you're doing something wrong. 634 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,080 After the incident the atmosphere calmed 635 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,080 right down. It went back to the knower feeling 636 00:29:10,980 --> 00:29:12,980 It was just me and the equipment 637 00:29:12,980 --> 00:29:14,980 there was nobody there. 638 00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:19,980 I have kept the story 639 00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:21,980 to myself for approximately 640 00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:23,980 20 years. 641 00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:25,980 I think it's important to put a story like this out there. 642 00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:27,980 There's something 643 00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:29,980 in the military that causes you 644 00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:31,980 to rationalize things in a certain type of way 645 00:29:31,980 --> 00:29:33,980 and that's what your training is. 646 00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:35,980 And when this stuff happens to you 647 00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:37,980 anything paranormal 648 00:29:37,980 --> 00:29:39,980 that's right out the window. 649 00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:42,980 It was almost like watching a 650 00:29:42,980 --> 00:29:44,980 horror movie. 651 00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:46,980 On a scale of 1 to 10 652 00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:48,980 I was a solid 10. 653 00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:53,980 One of the top training 654 00:29:53,980 --> 00:29:55,980 facilities for the Canadian armed forces 655 00:29:55,980 --> 00:29:57,980 is the Land Force Central Area Training Center 656 00:29:57,980 --> 00:29:59,980 in Mifert, Ontario. 657 00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:01,980 Mifert is a small town 658 00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:03,980 I think population today is like 659 00:30:03,980 --> 00:30:05,980 10,000. 660 00:30:05,980 --> 00:30:07,980 Not close to a major urban 661 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,880 center. It's established during World War 662 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,880 War II like almost every other 663 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,880 single camp is. 664 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,880 It's got open farmland, simulating 665 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,880 many places in the world. 666 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,880 And it's got access to deep forests. 667 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,880 So it's a kind of potpourri 668 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,880 of training opportunities. 669 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,880 But when this city was founded 670 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,880 in 1874 671 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,880 the land in Mifert was untamed 672 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,880 and full of danger. 673 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,880 It soon gained a reputation 674 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,880 for being home to strange phenomena. 675 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,880 Music 676 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,880 Once I realized what was 677 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,880 happening 678 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,880 it was just straight 679 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,880 fear. 680 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,880 My name is Jackson Godby. 681 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,880 I'm a corporal in the Canadian infantry. 682 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,880 My entire life I've always 683 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,880 believed that I was going to join the military. 684 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Growing up it was just me and my mom. 685 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,240 My mom, we're very tight knit, very, very close. 686 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,160 When I told my mom, she was very proud 687 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,040 that I stuck to doing something that I talked about 688 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,280 during my whole life. 689 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,880 After completing basic training in 2019, 690 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,280 Jackson is sent to Meeford, Ontario 691 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,680 to participate in a 12 week infantry training program. 692 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560 The emotions I was feeling when I arrived at Meeford was, 693 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,960 I thought, what am I getting myself into? 694 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,800 I'm from Edmonton, Alberta. 695 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,840 It's more industrial. 696 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,480 I'm here to do this course. 697 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,760 And it just feels like you're kind of cut off 698 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,800 from the rest of the world. 699 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,440 A lot of the basic skills were how to perform in the field 700 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,640 and basically how to fight a lot of mental preparation. 701 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,600 It was very tough. 702 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,120 With only a few weeks of infantry training left to complete, 703 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,120 Jackson participates in an overnight 704 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,240 urban operations training course. 705 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,800 So I was asked to play as the enemy force 706 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,920 for running infantry course. 707 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,760 This is the make and break part of the course. 708 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,120 Hold up, I got something. 709 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,200 At the end of the day, Jackson and his squad 710 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,280 are instructed to stay at an old cabin 711 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,440 for urban ops trainees instead of returning to base camp. 712 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,080 Once we got ready for the night, 713 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,680 we had some downtime just to like, hang out and talk. 714 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,080 I already felt very eerie, 715 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,560 like something was kind of off already. 716 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,080 So at 11 PM, I went outside just to relieve myself 717 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,080 as the house does not have a bathroom. 718 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,080 And behind the building was this big long stretch of forest. 719 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,080 You cannot see into it. 720 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,080 It was just pitch black. 721 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,080 It was very creepy. 722 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,080 It was very creepy. 723 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,080 There's just something about it. 724 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,080 I kind of gave myself the courage 725 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,080 just to kind of peek over my shoulder just to take a look. 726 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,080 The very thick, gray fog 727 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,080 began to kind of come out of the forest 728 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,080 and then it kind of crept up towards me. 729 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,080 It was swirling around. 730 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,080 It was making these wisps and these strange movements 731 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,080 the way that fog doesn't usually move around. 732 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,080 Almost as if something could be hiding inside of it. 733 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,080 There was just something about this fog 734 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,080 that just didn't feel right. 735 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,080 It's possible that Jackson could have witnessed 736 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,080 what is known as advection fog. 737 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,080 Advection fog occurs when warm, moist air 738 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,080 makes contact with a cold surface. 739 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,080 It could be snow. It could be ice. 740 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,080 It could even be cold ground. 741 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,080 So this happened up in Canada. 742 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,080 So it may have already snowed. 743 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,080 That would explain the existence of the fog. 744 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,080 It doesn't explain why the fog moved 745 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,080 the way he said it did. 746 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,080 There was no way anybody could be in this woods at that time. 747 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,080 No instructors, no candidates. 748 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,080 I was like, oh my God, I need to hurry up. 749 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,080 I need to go. 750 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,080 I guess in hindsight, I should have seen that as a bad omen. 751 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,080 The hares in the back of my neck stood up 752 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,080 and I just remembered that feeling, that spidey senses 753 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,080 of like someone's looking at me right now from this woods 754 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,080 and I cannot see them. 755 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,080 While on an overnight training exercise, 756 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,080 infantry soldier Jackson Godby 757 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,080 encounters an unnatural presence. 758 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,080 In between the hours of 3 a.m. and 4 a.m., 759 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,080 everyone in that room started to slowly wake up. 760 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,080 Just the atmosphere, the whole building 761 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,080 felt very off, very different. 762 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,080 Hey. 763 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,080 Marcus. 764 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,080 Marcus. 765 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,080 You hear that? 766 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,080 Like, there's someone walking around upstairs 767 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,080 and we're all sitting around, we're trying to listen 768 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,080 and we heard two pairs of footsteps 769 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,080 that were right above us. 770 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,080 We were trying to think maybe that's one of the instructors 771 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,080 that was inside the house, 772 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,080 but then that's when we heard the female voice. 773 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,080 But we did not have any female instructors on the course 774 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,080 and the footsteps, they almost sounded like feet 775 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,080 or just shoes. 776 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,080 They didn't sound like combat boots, 777 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,080 like what we were wearing. 778 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,080 Then we heard another kind of gargly man's voice. 779 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,080 They were having a conversation. 780 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,080 The voices sounded extremely unnatural to us. 781 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,080 And we couldn't make out what they were saying. 782 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,080 We were all very freaked out 783 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,080 and we could hear them come downstairs towards us. 784 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,080 Everyone was sitting there just listening like, 785 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,080 what is that? 786 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,080 What's coming down the stairs? 787 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,080 We were expecting for someone to come down this last step, 788 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,080 but no one showed up. 789 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,080 And the atmosphere and what we were feeling inside of this room 790 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,080 was very dreadful. 791 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,080 Is someone there? 792 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,080 Eventually, after that very unsettling feeling, 793 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,080 the silence broke when we heard the footsteps 794 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,080 going outside the building. 795 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,080 And as they were still leaving, 796 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,080 they were still having this distorted conversation 797 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,080 and there would be a snicker and laughing and giggling. 798 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,080 We had more questions and answers. 799 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,080 We're trained to deal with enemy threats, 800 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,080 but we weren't necessarily trained 801 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,080 for this certain situation that was going on. 802 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,080 This was something that scared us 803 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,080 because we weren't able to explain what was happening. 804 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,080 So the next morning, an instructor had come by 805 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,080 to check up on us and to bring us breakfast. 806 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,080 How we doing? 807 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,080 We heard some crazy noises last night. 808 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,080 Screens, laughing. 809 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,080 And he kind of gives off this smile and he goes, 810 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,080 oh, that's Meeford Mary. 811 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,080 She? 812 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,080 Who? 813 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,080 Who? 814 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,080 So he tells us that the training area is haunted, 815 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,080 most notoriously by this entity, Meeford Mary. 816 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,080 There are rumors that she was a young woman 817 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,080 who sometime in the 19th century fell down a well. 818 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,080 She died down there. 819 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,080 And as a result, she is desperate for company 820 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,080 and shows up haunting people. 821 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,080 And particularly at the Land Forces Central Training Center, 822 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,080 she's made quite a few appearances over the years. 823 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,080 There are rumors that the well is somewhere 824 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,080 on the base of Camp Meeford. 825 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,080 And he told us stories of how he's heard 826 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,080 women screaming from inside the forest. 827 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,080 And if you hear screaming that comes from inside the woods, 828 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,080 don't go and investigate. 829 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,080 That's just Meeford Mary trying to lure you in. 830 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,080 My reaction was, is this happening right now? 831 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,080 I'm getting told this incredible story 832 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,080 that lines up with what I had experienced the night before. 833 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,080 So hearing it from someone that I looked up to 834 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,080 makes the experience that I had a lot more real. 835 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,080 Soon after the incident at the cabin, 836 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:45,080 Jackson and his unit are assigned to an overnight patrol exercise. 837 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,080 I was tasked to do security in the woods. 838 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,080 Well, the rest of the element goes 839 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,080 and do their part of the patrol. 840 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,080 And I put on my night vision because I started to have that feeling of 841 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,080 someone's in the woods with me watching with me. 842 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,080 And I started to scan around just to see if I can make out any 843 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,080 bodies or any movement. 844 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,080 The first thing that I could see was these 845 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,080 eyes that were glowing at me from behind a tree. 846 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,080 At first I thought it was an animal or it could be one of the instructors 847 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,080 just making sure that I'm doing my job. 848 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,080 But it started to materialize into a human shape. 849 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,080 I can see the eyes start to move from behind the tree. 850 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,080 And this apparition was very feminine. 851 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,080 I could see that the hair was this light colored blonde almost. 852 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,080 And her hair reached down to her back and I could make out this summer dress 853 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,080 that she was wearing and it looked very 1800s. 854 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:50,080 I wasn't sleep deprived anything because this was my first night in the field 855 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,080 and this apparition was just skulking behind trees. 856 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,080 I started to rationalize that this was Meeford Mary. 857 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,080 When I started to see the log hair and the glowing eyes. 858 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:09,080 She started to move around a bit more and it was almost as if she was 859 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,080 observing me and trying to stalk me as if she was some sort of predator. 860 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,080 Eventually the fear started to hit me pretty rough. 861 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,080 She was starting to move around. 862 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,080 She was probably right behind me. 863 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,080 This was just straight fear. 864 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:33,080 At any point they could just lean in real close and whisper something into my ears. 865 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:43,080 Having this very unexplained encounter with Meeford Mary 866 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,080 it went from hearing stories and rumors to it actually happening to me. 867 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,080 You're not real. 868 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,080 You're not real. You're not real. 869 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,080 To be a good infantryman you have to be very stoic. 870 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,080 I was doing a job. 871 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,080 I couldn't just abandon the position that I was at. 872 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,080 So I just laid my head back for a second and I closed my eyes and I just thought 873 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,080 like just please go away. 874 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,080 Please just go away. 875 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,080 Hey Jackson! We're heading back to camp. 876 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,080 I'm coming with you. 877 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:27,080 I believe that there is something that is not good that haunts the ground in Meeford. 878 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,080 Meeford is a place of isolation. 879 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,080 Meeford itself is its instructor in a way. 880 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:39,080 It's training you to be as tough and as strong-willed and to become like the environment that it is. 881 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,080 When I look back on the encounter that I had with Meeford Mary 882 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,080 you're not real. 883 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,080 It makes me question what life and death is afterwards. 884 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,080 It definitely challenged my spiritual beliefs. 885 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,080 And it still challenges me today on what I believe in.